#213 | Kamala Devi McClure: Is Jealousy Your Teacher? What 25 Years of Open Marriage Reveals
Oct 12, 2026What if the jealousy you've been trying to get rid of is the very thing trying to wake you up? Kamala Devi McClure has been living that question for 25 years. They're a mystic, muse, and mentor who has shared an open polyamorous marriage with their husband, some of it in front of television cameras. On episode 213 of the Sex Reimagined Podcast, Kamala Devi joins Leah Piper and Dr. Willow Brown for one of our most honest conversations yet about jealousy, ethical non-monogamy, and what it really takes to keep love growing.
Their marriage has taken many shapes: a 10 page contract shared with another couple and about five other lovers, an experiment with relationship anarchy that brought plenty of tears, and infidelity on both sides. Through it all, Kamala Devi kept wrestling with jealousy, which they describe as part of their ancestral and cultural inheritance. What finally shifted things wasn't conquering it. It was recognizing jealousy as our animal nature, the same instinct you see when you give affection to one pet in front of another. "We're gods, but we're also animals," they say. Loving that animal, possessiveness and all, became the path.
Today, Kamala Devi describes a deep, settled security with their husband that they once didn't believe was possible. And with that security comes more freedom, not less. The secret isn't a perfect set of rules. It's attunement: feeling the impact you have on each other, and a shared commitment to repair when things break. Then the conversation turns to Kamala Devi's new book, One Fool's Journey, which maps the 22 Major Arcana of the tarot onto the chapters of their life, from the Strength card as their jealousy chapter to an Emperor card inspired by Charles Muir.
Key Takeaways
- "Open marriage" originally meant open communication about your fantasies, not multiple lovers
- The one rule everyone agrees on: don't lie and hide
- Jealousy isn't just insecurity. It can be fear of loss, competition, or worry about what others think
- When jealousy hits, ask: What am I afraid of? Angry about? Sad about?
- Attunement over agreements keeps an open marriage alive
- The ability to repair matters more than never messing up
In The Dish, Leah and Willow keep the conversation going with a candid look at whether the word "patriarchy" still serves us, or whether "power dynamics" and "conditioning" land better.
EPISODE LINKS
- Kamala Devi’s Free Gift | The Moon Chapter from One Fools Journey
- Kamala Devi’s Book | One Fools Journy
- SxR Episode #8 | Charles Muir: The Original Sacred Spot Massage
- SxR Episode #81 | Charles & Christy Muir 2.0: Tantric Secrets Revealed - Unlock Mind-Blowing Orgasms and Unbreakable Love
- Kamala Devi’s Website
- Kamala Devi’s YouTube Channel